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Microsoft.com PMTUD black hole?
\ Nathan Anderson/FSR (6 May 2008)
. \ Brandon Butterworth (6 May 2008)
. . \ Iljitsch van Beijnum (6 May 2008)
. . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (6 May 2008)
. . . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (6 May 2008)
. . . . \ Iljitsch van Beijnum (7 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Bjørn Mork (7 May 2008)
. . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (6 May 2008)
. \ Robert Bonomi (6 May 2008)
. . \ Tomas L. Byrnes (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Marshall Eubanks (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Randy Bush (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Glen Turner (7 May 2008)
. . . . \ Mark Newton (7 May 2008)
. . . . \ Patrick Giagnocavo (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Rich Kulawiec (7 May 2008)
. . . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Michael Sinatra (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Iljitsch van Beijnum (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Tomas L. Byrnes (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . \ Iljitsch van Beijnum (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . \ Tomas L. Byrnes (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . \ Iljitsch van Beijnum (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . \ Tomas L. Byrnes (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Tomas L. Byrnes (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Bjørn Mork (8 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Joel Jaeggli (8 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . \ Iljitsch van Beijnum (8 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . \ Smith, Donald (8 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Hank Nussbacher (8 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Deepak Jain (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ SML (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Tony Finch (8 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Blaine Christian (8 May 2008)
. . \ Stephen Sprunk (7 May 2008)
. \ Iljitsch van Beijnum (7 May 2008)
. \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . \ Tomas L. Byrnes (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Nathan Anderson/FSR (7 May 2008)
. . . \ Matthew Petach (12 May 2008)
. \ Michael Sinatra (7 May 2008)
. \ Scott Weeks (8 May 2008)
. \ Janet Sullivan (8 May 2008)
. . \ Niels Bakker (8 May 2008)

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33 msgfair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 ...
Subject:Re: Microsoft.com PMTUD black hole?
Group:Nanog
From:Stephen Sprunk
Date:7 May 2008


 
Thus spake "Nathan Anderson/FSR" <nathana>
> A member of Microsoft's GNS network escalations team saw my
> postings on NANOG about this issue and took offense at my use
> of this forum to raise this issue with them, and criticized me as
> being unprofessional and lacking in business acumen.

First, it's "unprofessional and lacking in business acumen" for someone to
criticize their customers to their face. As one manager taught me, "The
customer may not always be right, but they're never wrong."

Second, it's their own damn fault for not maintaining their contact
information properly in public databases. If the only option they leave you
is to post to NANOG, because they don't respond to (or even accept) direct
requests to the listed contacts, then that's what you have to do.

Many companies are guilty of the latter, and we all get the benefit of
seeing the state of their customer service for reference when making future
buying decisions. Very few are arrogant enough to do the former, though.

S

Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking


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