Re: [opensuse] Opensuse-11-beta2-DVD-delta.iso

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[opensuse] Opensuse-11-beta2-DVD-delta.iso
\ Indhu Durai (6 May 2008)
. \ Carlos E. R. (6 May 2008)
. . \ Indhu Durai (6 May 2008)
. . . \ Carlos E. R. (6 May 2008)
. . . \ John Andersen (6 May 2008)
. . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
. . . . \ Sam Clemens (7 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
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. . . . . . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Joe Sloan (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Boyd Lynn Gerber (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Rajko M. (8 May 2008)
. . . . \ Basil Chupin (7 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ peter nikolic (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ jpff (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
. . . . \ Carlos E. R. (7 May 2008)
. . . . . \ peter nikolic (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Carlos E. R. (7 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ peter nikolic (7 May 2008)
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. . . . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
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. \ Fred A. Miller (8 May 2008)

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Subject:	Re: [opensuse] Opensuse-11-beta2-DVD-delta.iso
Group:	Suse-linux-e
From:	peter nikolic
Date:	7 May 2008

On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Wednesday 2008-05-07 at 15:45 +0100, peter nikolic wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > I would beg to differ there at least partly KDE4 has got problems that
> > make it still Alpha unstable BUT it is Suse that are PUSHING it down
> > our throats by positioning the KDE4 choice in the position they have in
> > the menu those that are not in the know of just how BAD KDE4 really is
> > just accept the first choice install it then they are going to get hit by
> > things that do not work are missing ect ect ect , The decission about
> > the menu choices was made once again by Suse there was much deccent as i
> > remember in that thread the bulk of which said NO to KDE4 as the first
> > choice hey presto where is it now Alpha software as the first choice
> > talk about playing into the hands of the M$ Corp windBloWs brigade ye
> > gads
>
> Hold on right there.
>
> You may have a point in your argument, but the moment you start talking
> about microsoft, you loose the argument. I'm out, I'm not talking. Bye. :-/
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Carlos E. R.

Not pruned on purpose what do you mean i loose the argument by chickening out
you by default loose out i KNOW i have a point Unfortunatley the M$ Corp
comes into the equation for the simple reason that people are going to run a
million miles the moment they find out how BAD KDE4 is .

This is supposed to be A COMMUNITY Thing where are the decissions made by
the community I'll tell you where swept under the Corperate rug .

It's all very well saying hey he mentioned microslops i am outta here but that
will get you no where it will not get suse any futher either we have a foe if
you like to look at them that way ( i have another description i use myself
that is not printable) and unless we get these issues sorted out we LOOSE
I dislike M$ Corp i walked out of an IT job for the simple reason i got so
totally hacked off with phone calls from people with windBloWs crashes
expecting quick fixes that dont exist ,

Have you forgot that these is now a tie up between Suse-Novelle and M$ Corp
the enemy is almost within runnig and hiding will get us zilch as will badly
sorted distributions

Pete .

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