Re: [opensuse] Opensuse-11-beta2-DVD-delta.iso

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[opensuse] Opensuse-11-beta2-DVD-delta.iso
\ Indhu Durai (6 May 2008)
. \ Carlos E. R. (6 May 2008)
. . \ Indhu Durai (6 May 2008)
. . . \ Carlos E. R. (6 May 2008)
. . . \ John Andersen (6 May 2008)
. . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
. . . . \ Sam Clemens (7 May 2008)
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. . . . \ Basil Chupin (7 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Fred A. Miller (7 May 2008)
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. \ Fred A. Miller (8 May 2008)

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Subject:	Re: [opensuse] Opensuse-11-beta2-DVD-delta.iso
Group:	Suse-linux-e
From:	Fred A. Miller
Date:	7 May 2008

peter nikolic wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>> Basil Chupin wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> As far as I am concerned, it would be a DISASTER if it went with KDE4 in
>>> June.
>>>
>
>> And I HATE Gnome!! :(
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> --
>> MickySoft Aims to Lasso Everything With Live Mesh.
>> What will get "lassoed" is your private data as
>> hackers, virus and trojan writers have a field day!
>
> I have tried 11b2 on the laptop Compaq Presario V5030 AMD Turion64 ATI
> graphics(yuk) rtl8139 network card and the inevitble Broadcom wirless and
> have had some strange to say the least happenings.
>
> 11b2 cant set the network up at all just refuses to get a gateway completely
> DHCP system with all other machines behaving perfectly (even a flippin
> windBlows machine whne pulgged into the network works instantly)

Yep.......it's been an old tiresome story. Some things out to change,
but just don't.

> The wirless thing i expect hassles with thats nothing new but now it gets
> weired if i run KDE3 it is ok as root or user, If i TRY to run KDE4 as root
> it will run once then never again and as a user it refuses point blank to
> run at all it gives no error reports in any of the logs , It is totally
> brain DEAD the ability to change the desktop to your likes is non existant
> this machine has 1.5Gb of ram with 256Mb on the vodeo card and the single time
> i can get KDE4 to run it is so SLOOWWWWWWWWWWWW i take a shower whilst
> waiting for a program to load even something small like Kmahjongg (KDE4
> version) takes forever then try the same on KDE3 and bang it's there quick
> as you like .

Hmmmmmmmmmm.......something is really messed up. 'Shouldn't be
slow.....at least the Live CD is fairly responsive.

> KDE4 will not be ready for the 11 release but the idiots in there ivory
> towers have a preset ajenda and they will not change they have got to try and
> release something that is worse than darn windBloWs Pista just so that the
> MS community dont feel threatened .

I wondered what the reason was/is.....now we know. ;)

> The installition choices are ALL wrong we should hve KDE3 at the top then
> Gnome then with a warning that is still Alpha code and very unstable KDE4
> Suse is a KDE distribution stick to it with a GOOD and WORKING version of KDE
> not an Alpha code or as has been said rename 11 to 10.4 and release 11 when
> there is a FULLY working STABLE FULLY FEATURED version of KDE4 to use

Right!!!

> I know there are people in suse that are going to get the hump about messages
> likr this it is known as tough . there are certain people within suse that
> need to learn a few manners some of the replies i have seen from within suse
> on this list are to say the least impolite and Germanic for want of a better
> description.

That is true as well........not frequent, but it happens.

> I have been using suse since the early days and have always liked it but the
> way it is going now makes me wonder it really does.

We'll know soon enough.

Fred

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