Re: newfs during install

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\ Chris Zakelj (4 May 2008)
. \ Otto Moerbeek (4 May 2008)
. . \ Denis Doroshenko (4 May 2008)
. . . \ Nick Holland (5 May 2008)
. . . . \ Denis Doroshenko (5 May 2008)

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Subject:	Re: newfs during install
Group:	Openbsd-misc
From:	Denis Doroshenko
Date:	5 May 2008

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Nick Holland
<nick> wrote:
> Denis Doroshenko wrote:
> ...
> > the faq continuously repeats "root partition" where (i believe) "root
> > filesystem" is actually meant.
>
> no, it means what it says, and says what it means (at least in this
> regard. :)
>
> File systems live on partitions. Partitions are created with fdisk
> and disklabel, and file systems live on those partitions, created
> with newfs. (of course, file systems can also live on virtual disks
> made out of other partitions, or files residing on file systems within
> partitions residing on real or virtual disks...and more. Your head
> spinning yet?)
>
> Ok, at least that's my definition.
>
> You can also say "fdisk makes partitions disklabel makes slices" or
> "fdisk makes slices and disklabel makes partitions" or "fdisk makes
> partitions and disklabel makes subpartitions" or "fdisk makes
> do-hickies and disklabel makes thig-a-majigs", but no matter how you
> put it, SOMEONE, if not most people, are going to get confused when
> they first start out. This is acknowledged directly here:
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Disks

well, i feel sorry for my slacking-lazy ass. i needed to read the whole faq,
as there is the term definition part! one of my university professors
taught "do not get used to the terms", and his most funny joke was the
formulas written with symbols that are randomly picked (e.g. a, b, c for
the force, acceleration and mass). most students were confused
completely as he was moving to more complex stuff. well i'm one bad
student and you got me!!

my intelized mind is still confused with partitions here and partitions
there, OTOH i had only one layer of partitions on a sparc64 :-) gosh,
even disklabel(8) calls the filesystem containers this way!

> Nick.

thanks Nick! i have only a hope that i'm not alone here and your efforts
help us all bad faq-readers.