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Editing C with...
\ Jordi Espasa Clofent (3 May 2008)
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. \ Darrin Chandler (3 May 2008)
. \ bofh (3 May 2008)
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. \ Marco Peereboom (3 May 2008)
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. . . . \ Stephan Andre' (4 May 2008)
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. \ Owain Ainsworth (4 May 2008)
. . \ Nick Holland (4 May 2008)
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2 msg4.2, ppp problem
Subject:Re: Editing C with...
Group:Openbsd-misc
From:Nick Holland
Date:4 May 2008


 
ropers wrote:
> 2008/5/4 Nick Holland <nick>:
>> "[vim] alters files in unexpected ways", which I consider a
>> major sin.
>
> I didn't know that, and cursory googling didn't turn up anything
> enlightening. Could you elaborate?
>
> Thanks and regards,
> --ropers

It might have been better if I had said, "alters my input", instead
of implying that I edit a file with vim and it gets saved
differently than loaded without my deliberately changing anything.

And yes, tabs and auto indent were some of the things. I also had
an experience with it auto-inserting line breaks which caused me
large amounts of problem.

All this stuff is there for a reason, and is great for the
intended purposes. HOWEVER, it's annoying as heck when one's
purposes don't jive with the editor's defaults. Yes, all those
defaults can be changed, but on the machine I was fighting with
at the time, they were in some very inappropriate for my needs, and
quite unexpected behavior for something I invoked with the command
"vi". I won't dispute vim is a great editor...I just dislike it
pretending to be vi on some distributions of another OS. In all
likelihood, it COULD pass as vi, but not with all the options
turned on.

Nick.



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