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2 msg4.2, ppp problem
Subject:Re: Editing C with...
Group:Openbsd-misc
From:Girish Venkatachalam
Date:3 May 2008


 
On 13:51:58 May 03, Robert C Wittig wrote:

> vi/vim.
>
> I use it for most of my editing tasks, not just writing C code.

I use vim since it enhances my coding speed in a big way.

As to KNF I guess it is just a habit that I want to inculcate for all my
C coding. Right now it is voluntary and occasionally painful but I don't
want to lose the chance to make it automatic by going in for a tool.

I am bowled over by vim's knowledge of config file syntax and the way it
highlights various keywords. That way I can afford to be a bit lazy with
certain programming languages or even config file directives. It would
highlight typos in a different color.

Occasionally vim does go wrong however but so far it has not affected
me.

I type out this mail with vim and it helps me appear good since I have
auto spell check on. With bad keyboards I tend to make silly typos and
vim can save my day by highlighting it and alerting me.

Of course I would not be so much in love with vim but for its vi key
bindings.

As to power editing you should really read the short and sweet document
written by the author of vim Bram Moolenaar.

(If someone can locate it for me I shall be obliged. ;)

He emphasizes how the steep learning curve experienced by vi learners
are paid back in full in due course of time. I can vouch for it. So what
if it is counter intuitive in the beginning?

So what if it is sometimes tougher than emacs? Once you use it every time
you create a document be it LaTeX or e-mail or source code or config
file editing, you stick to one editor and that according to me is an
amazing convenience.

Its ability to read and write files makes it even more powerful of
course. And the output of commands.

Hope this helps. That said choice is yours as always. ;)

Open source is a democratic world. ;)

-Girish



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