Re: RFC: Catalyst::Controller::REST::DBIC

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RFC: Catalyst::Controller::REST::DBIC
\ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. \ Patrick Donelan (4 May 2008)
. . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Christopher Laco (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Steve Atkins (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Christopher Laco (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Matt S Trout (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Matt S Trout (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . \ Andrew Rodland (5 May 2008)
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. . . . . . . . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (5 May 2008)
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. . . \ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. \ Aristotle Pagaltzis (4 May 2008)
. . \ Matt S Trout (4 May 2008)
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. . . . . \ Matt S Trout (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Patrick Donelan (6 May 2008)
. . . \ Aristotle Pagaltzis (5 May 2008)
. \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . \ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
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. . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
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. \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (15 May 2008)
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Subject:	Re: RFC: Catalyst::Controller::REST::DBIC
Group:	Catalyst
From:	luke saunders
Date:	5 May 2008

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, J. Shirley <jshirley> wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Andrew Rodland <arodland> wrote:
> > On Monday 05 May 2008 09:50:08 am J. Shirley wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Matt S Trout <dbix-class> wrote:
> > > > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:06:30AM -0700, J. Shirley wrote:
> >
> > > > I fail to see how whether the PK is the lookup key or not has any
> > > > relevance at all to the original point, which was "your lookup key and
> > > > names of actions might clash so it can be nice to have an extra path
> > > > component such as 'id' for the lookup part to disambiguate".
> > >
> > > Because I'm talking about REST and a verb in the URI doesn't need to be
> > > there.
> >
> > But those nouns you're talking about aren't verbs at all.
> >
> > Andrew
>
> How is /create, /edit or /delete not a verb?
> My argument is separate to the /create is valid in the /foo/{token}
> bit. I'm saying that /foo/create is silly to have in the first place ...

Okay, let me clear this up. Originally the plan was to have a
centralised REST-style action which dispatched POST/PUT/GET/DELETE
requests to the appropriate actions while also providing RPC-style
verb actions as an alternative for use if the client didn't properly
support the REST request methods. Having listened to discussion in
this thread I think it would be better to make the module pure REST
and then provide the RPC alternative through a subclass, perhaps also
integrating Catalyst::Request::REST::ForBrowsers into the REST version
as suggested.

> If you apply actual REST principles, you don't have such nonsense.
> But again, as I said, this is if you are working with REST. If REST
> doesn't fit your application model, don't use it. Just don't name
> things REST when they are really CRUD.

Why can't CRUD be RESTful?

In fact my revised plan is to glue together a base REST module and a
base CRUD module and add the list method discussed somewhere else in
this thread to provide a complete default RESTful module. Ideally the
REST base module could be swapped for an RPC style base module to
easily provide an RPC alternative of the same thing.

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