Re: RFC: Catalyst::Controller::REST::DBIC

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RFC: Catalyst::Controller::REST::DBIC
\ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. \ Patrick Donelan (4 May 2008)
. . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Christopher Laco (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Steve Atkins (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Christopher Laco (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ Matt S Trout (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Matt S Trout (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . \ Andrew Rodland (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . \ luke saunders (5 May 2008)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . \ Peter Karman (5 May 2008)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . \ luke saunders (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ Peter Karman (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ luke saunders (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ Ashley (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (6 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . \ Matt S Trout (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . . . . . \ J. Shirley (5 May 2008)
. . . \ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. \ Aristotle Pagaltzis (4 May 2008)
. . \ Matt S Trout (4 May 2008)
. . . \ J. Shirley (4 May 2008)
. . . \ Patrick Donelan (5 May 2008)
. . . . \ luke saunders (5 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Matt S Trout (5 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Patrick Donelan (6 May 2008)
. . . \ Aristotle Pagaltzis (5 May 2008)
. \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . \ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . \ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (4 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. \ Jonathan Rockway (4 May 2008)
. . \ luke saunders (4 May 2008)
. \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (15 May 2008)
. . \ Mark Trostler (15 May 2008)
. . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (15 May 2008)
. . . . \ Aristotle Pagaltzis (15 May 2008)
. . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (16 May 2008)
. . . . . . \ Aristotle Pagaltzis (16 May 2008)
. . . . . . . \ Zbigniew Lukasiak (16 May 2008)

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Subject:	Re: RFC: Catalyst::Controller::REST::DBIC
Group:	Catalyst
From:	Zbigniew Lukasiak
Date:	5 May 2008

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM, J. Shirley <jshirley> wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Andrew Rodland <arodland> wrote:
> > On Monday 05 May 2008 09:50:08 am J. Shirley wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Matt S Trout <dbix-class> wrote:
> > > > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:06:30AM -0700, J. Shirley wrote:
> >
> > > > I fail to see how whether the PK is the lookup key or not has any
> > > > relevance at all to the original point, which was "your lookup key and
> > > > names of actions might clash so it can be nice to have an extra path
> > > > component such as 'id' for the lookup part to disambiguate".
> > >
> > > Because I'm talking about REST and a verb in the URI doesn't need to be
> > > there.
> >
> > But those nouns you're talking about aren't verbs at all.
> >
> > Andrew
>
> How is /create, /edit or /delete not a verb?
>
> My argument is separate to the /create is valid in the /foo/{token}
> bit. I'm saying that /foo/create is silly to have in the first place,
> and the /foo/id/{id} is nothing more than a conversion from named
> parameters to positional, and ugly.
>
> If you apply actual REST principles, you don't have such nonsense.
> But again, as I said, this is if you are working with REST. If REST
> doesn't fit your application model, don't use it. Just don't name
> things REST when they are really CRUD.

The point is about having something that will work as REST for
automated agents and also work for browsers by some emulation or what
ever - so you'll have some additional actions on the controller as
well. Additionally if we really want to make this REST Role (assuming
Moose Catalyst by that time) - then the user of the library can have
his own actions. In both way you'll have a clash if we go your way.

Because /foo/id/{id} looks like a parameter - which is the only
argument agains it and is just a bit of pedantry on your side - you
would allow for broken logic?

--
Zbigniew Lukasiak
http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/

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