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| Subject: | Re: Trackballs and Keyboards (Was: Time and Keyboards) |
| Group: | Mozilla-general |
| From: | Brian Heinrich |
| Date: | 26 Jan 2007 |
On 2007-01-16 17:03 (-0700 UTC), Daniella wrote:
> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> On 2007-01-16 10:16 (-0700 UTC), Daniella wrote:
>
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>>> I just got (today) an Inland ergonomic keyboard (from newegg.com
>>> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823205007 ). It's
>>> not exactly what I wanted
>
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>> bought an Adesso keyboard very much like
>> <http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=23%2D166%2D028%2D02%2Ejpg% 2C23%2D166%2D028%2D03%2Ejpg%2C23%2D166%2D028%2D04%2Ejpg&CurImage=23%2D166%2D 028%2D02%2Ejpg&Description=ADESSO+PCK%2D308B+Black+PS%2F2+Ergonomics+Keyboar d+Built%2DIt+Touchpad+Mouse+Included+%2D+Retail>;
>> 'cos it was the best value for money I could find.
>>
>> Unfortunately, it has a Cirque touchpad,
>
> I know Cirque touchpad >:o yech
I was absolutely stunned to discover the difference between the Synaptics
touchpads and the Cirque ones. If my first experience with a touchpad has
been with a Cirque, I'd hate 'em . . . rather than lamenting the fact that I
can't find an ergo keyboard with a Synaptics touchpad.
>> But, for the price, the one you bought seems like a good buy.
>>
>> If I had the money (which, of course, I don't), I'd definitely be
>> tempted to consider the products at <http://www.safetype.com/>,
>> <http://www.datahand.com/>, and the contoured ones at
>> <http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/>.
>>
>> <http://www.ergo-items.com/> and <http://www.comfortkeyboard.com/>
>> might be other sites worth looking at. Since it seems that a
>> Synaptics touchpad integrated it an ergo keyboard is a thing of the
>> past, I'm still looking for an ideal pointing device; at first blush,
>> <http://comfortkeyboard.com/Wheel_Mouse.html> would look more
>> promising were it not that I use a reverse grade on my keyboard, but
>> <http://comfortkeyboard.com/ergo_trackball.html> definitely looks
>> promising. . . .
>
> That one looks a lot like this one
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125017
They don't look too dissimilar, tho' the one to which I pointed seems more
rugged. . . .
> Some of the keyboards and stuff you pointed out look very cool, some
> (like the Comfort Keyboard) are going on my wish list.
>
> So you must have seen the other trackballs at newegg? The one I have is
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104125 (....and
> no I don't work at newegg :-D , I just shop there a lot)
If memory serves, it was one of the Logitech ones designed for right-handed
people. Problem is, I'm neither strictly right-handed nor strictly
right-handed, so while I tend to use a mouse primarily with my right hand,
there are times when I don't.
For instance, my right elbow's been giving me enough problems in the past
little while (I suspect because of the position of the mouse) that I
switched my mouse so that I could use it with my left hand. Hopefully that
helps remove some of the strain. (I'm guessing it's a good thing that
no-one else really uses this computer. :-P)
> I wrote a review for it when I was shopping for my keyboard. I'm
> "PoisonFor3"; that's where the "PF3" in my "PF3_Newsgroups" (the name I
> use for news groups) comes from. One thing I did not put in the review
> is that your hand sits a little sideways and it seems to help the
> ergonomics of it, what SafeType calls Pronation.
Very much like the M$ keyboard I bought. In fact, I suspect that's been
causing my elbow to twist when I reach for the mouse, and that's what's
causing the problems. . . .
> I have put a folded towel down in fount of my keyboard and mouse to help
> with making my hand angle is better, what SafeType calls Deviation. It
> helped with the deviation but I can never get my chair up high enough to
> have good extension (another term I got from SafeType); plus it looks
> dumb. I don't like the under the table or end of table extensions
> because I like the armrests on my new chair and my arms and elbows on
> the table.
One thing that I've tended to do is set my keyboard so that my forearms are
actually touching the edge of the table; it just seems to help keep my
wrists at a better angle.
> One thing I have given thought to is cutting a hole in my
> desktop and sinking the keyboard about 3 to 4 cm. It seems to me I have
> seen something like that years ago. I think it was one of them things
> that was a good idea that just never took off ..... or maybe not.
The real issue, I find, is that most people don't sit high enough -- or sit
too high -- in relation to the surface on which their keyboard rests. You
can use extension as a way of partly adjusting for that.
Then again, given how I've seen some people (younger women in particular)
sit when they type, I wonder how they manage to type at all -- let alone
type at something over 60 words a minute!
/b.
--
People are stupid. /A/ person may be smart, but /people/ are stupid.
--Stephen M. Graham
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