Re: back up gentoo system

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Subject:	Re: back up gentoo system
Group:	Gentoo-user
From:	Michael Schmarck
Date:	10 May 2008

· Neil Bothwick <neil>:

> On Fri, 09 May 2008 15:38:51 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote:
>
>> >> No. Not to a drive used for backups of Linux machines.
>> >
>> > Why?
>>
>> Different OS.
>
> So. We can use the same web pages, read the same email, why not share
> hardware?

Because it doesn't make sense, to share the same filesystem for
backing up Windows and Linux?

Why should the same filesystem be used to hold backups for Windows
and Linux? What's the point in making things more dangerous than they
need to be?

>> > My partner has to use Windows for
>> > work, are you saying we are not allowed to share a backup device?
>>
>> It just doesn't make sense.
>
> So if I have a Linux box, a Windows box and a Mac and want to backup to
> an external drive, you say I must buy three drives when one will do?

I did not say that. I said:

| But more interesting: Why should they even be able to backup to the
| same drive (or better: to the same filesystem)?

And that's more to the point: Why backup to the same filesystem?

It's a simple matter of keeping different things seperated. What's
the point in mixing up backups of Linux and Windows?

> Should I buy a fourth drive for my Palm Treo?

Yes, I also think that what you're saying is rather stupid.

> Do I need separate rsync.net accounts too?

At least I wouldn't store everything in the same directory. It would
of course be a good idea to seperate things.

> A backup device is just a storage appliance, if should not be parochial
> about the origin of the data it stores.

But because there are different requirements (features of the
filesystems), what you're saying is not correct.

And why do you make such a fuss about such a natural thing? There's
just no reason in sharing such a device/filesystem/"storage endpoint"
between different operating systems.

Michael Schmarck
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